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Frequently Asked Questions
1. Why are "these" silicone
hoses so expensive?
Most companies use very pliable materials,
which require less "work" to form end products. The materials we use are
unlike any other material on the market today. We are the only MFG. to not
use any automated process. Each hose is hand crafted and some designs are
very time consuming. Due to the special nature of our material,
specialized tooling is required to form the materials. This in turn gives
you a product that holds less pressure when under high temperatures.
2.
Are thicker hoses better?
Thicker 4ply+ hoses can be worse in
most cases. There is no added value in burst pressure, heat rating etc... unless
the same reinforcement is used.
Most manufacturers use a very low quality raw materials, which forces them to
make their hoses thicker in order to hold it's form/shape. Thick hoses
often have leak issues from the clamping force needed to compress the hose.
Also, they are not as pliable which makes them extremely difficult to install,
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS
to cut
and remove from any application. The majority of manufacturers machine process their hoses,
it
provides them a cost effective method to mass produce hoses using
polyester fabric, aramid, nomex, nylon and cheaper
commercial grade silicone to compensate for "quality " silicone integrity. Any
structural and high pressure application should have fiberglass centers.
Below are an examples of different brands of silicone hoses.
Which
hoses are you using?
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This is a
brand new 4 ply (layer) hose that has never been installed. Notice
the polyester fabric coming off. Furthermore, the outside (black
layer) and the inside (blue layer) are of different quality. Good
quality silicone should have a deep color and not a dull appearance. Many
manufacturers use two different materials therefore reducing manufacturing
costs and performance in the long term.
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This 3.5" ID hose is also new. Notice
the material used throughout. Good silicone hoses should have
a smooth finish and the "wrap" should be minimal. Special bends,
such as 90 Degree and alike, that are over 4"ID will always be 4 ply
fiberglass to support the bend. |

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This is one of our customer's
old hoses. As you can see this hose has a different inside lining
and also a poor quality wrap and dull finish. Also, if you look
closely, the lining has started to deteriorate due to the
polyester lining absorbing extra fuel and oils. The polyester lining will
ultimately swell and cause the hose to expand and weaken.
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This is our 2 ply silicone wrapped fiberglass.
The deep color is very evident and consistent with the inside layer. Also,
the fiberglass lining is very clean. The craftsmanship of
hand wrapping silicone is unsurpassed on
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3.
How can I tell a good quality hose from other hoses?
Good quality Silicone is apparent
from the richness of the color. Some manufacturers use two different types
of silicone; one for the exterior and one for the interior. If your hose
was not specifically made for coolant or oil use, it usually means a lower
quality material has been substituted. However, there are special linings
that are for coolant and oil applications. Silicone also has an adhesive
quality on the exterior layer.
4. How much
heat can a hose handle?
Our hoses can have
handled over 1000 degree F. in one hour increments and 600 degree F.
continuously for 168 hours (1 week) . The majority of other manufactures
will fall somewhere in the 300 degree F. to 550 degree F. maximum range.
5. Are cold
air intake hoses the same as turbo hoses?
Cold air intake
hoses do not need to be made from silicone.
6.
How do I clean the hoses?
A small amount of
rubbing alcohol , WD-40 or soap with warm water and just wipe. We
recommend using the WD-40 for grease marks.
7. When will I need a
thicker hose?
A thicker hose is often mistaken for
a stiffer hose. The reinforcement will ultimately determine the tensile
strength/temperature rating and has very little to do with the thickness of the
hose. Some manufacturers may add filler to the silicone for added
rigidity, but it will not have nearly the tensile strength/heat resistance of
fiberglass.
8. How
should a hose fit?
Any connector for
force induced applications should fit like a surgical glove and be snug.
9. Which kinds of hose clamps
are best?
Clamping force isn't the only reason hoses blow off during high
boost and/or vibration of engine. Proper length, correct installation of
hoses/piping, correct alignment of piping (pipes should be free of stress),
beaded pipe ends, correct type of hose (hump hose) tensile strength
of part and
overall condition of the hose all contribute to the stability of intercooler/turbo
connections. Also, over torque of clamps will cause damage to the hoses
and oval aluminum piping. We
recommend either Constant-Torque Clamps and Spring loaded T-bolt clamps that
self adjust during thermal expansion and/or contraction on the compressor
outlet.
10. Why use
silicone instead of rubber hoses/radiator hoses?
Silicone has a much higher temperature
yield. Silicone wrapped with fiberglass will have an even higher
temperature yield (500 to 600dg F.) than normal grades of commercial
silicone wrapped with other materials. One of the benefits of
good silicone under high temperature is its increased adhesion properties to
metal under high temperature. Although minute, this will reduce the
possibilities of pressure/boost loss. Also, radiator hoses are cooled from the
direct transfer of coolant/water which allow the hoses to have a longer life.
Direct transfer of compressed air coupled with "operating" temperatures (under
hood temperatures) will dramatically shorten the life span of radiator hoses
forcing them to have seam cracks and stiffen to the point that clamps have very
little clamping pressure on the hose. Radiator style hoses also expand
under load. We have had our customers watch their new radiator style hoses
expand while only under 8 psi. Under real operating temperatures, the
hoses will expand even further and boost loss will occur. Our diesel truck
application of 35+psi have loss an average of 10+ psi when under load while
using radiator type hoses.
11. Where/when should I use
Spring Loaded T-Bolt Clamps?
Spring Loaded T-Bolts are best use
at the compressor outlet. This is one of the most likely places that
hoses, pipes etc...come flying off when under "heavy" boost. Our heavy
duty spring loaded t-bolts adjust to the expansion/contraction of the
hose/piping is under tremendous strain from boost pressure and temperature.
12. How much PSI can/should a
silicone hose be able to handle?
Most silicone hoses (depending on
reinforcement material) handle 20 to over 200 psi at non-operating temperature.
However, when a hose is under operating temperature the burst rating diminishes
by over 50% depending on the temperature the hose is subject to. Another factor
to consider is the diameter and length of the hose. The larger the
diameter, the longer the hose, the less burst resistance it will have when under
heat combined with pressure.
Example: 2"ID x 3"L can have a
burst rating of 20 to nearly 250psi at non-operating temperature.
4"ID x 6"L can have a burst rating of 100 psi at non-operating temperature.
Our 3 1/2"ID x 6"L and 4"ID x 6"L
have been tested to exceed 65+psi at full operating temperature (250 deg f.)
13. Why are some of the
smaller hoses more expensive than larger hoses?
Our specially formulated material is
much more difficult to use on smaller circumferences, therefore taking more time
than larger hoses.
14. If I only
run 10-15psi, do I really need a 600 d. resistant hose?
The average
silicone hose will have a heat tolerance of less than 320 d f. At 15 psi,
the air temperature out of the turbo is 300 d. Having a hose near the
turbo and exhaust manifold will yield even higher external and internal temps.
15. What hoses should I use?
An ideal set up would include the use of one
hump hose on each pipe after the turbo
charger. Hump hoses allow for free play of the piping between the engine
and an intercooler that is mounted solidly to the body of the car. The free play allows the stress to be taken off the intercooler end tanks.
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